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mohammed agbadi talking about the tiktok art community and how it has slowly started turning into the twitter art community, filled with toxicity, trolling and just weird cringe stuff.
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Literally the art community on TikTok grew so toxic! like this one time i saw a small creator and then I saw so many hate comments! It’s so sad 😢
I really am an artist but I don’t have TikTok and I don’t want to and I don’t hate anyone who does because there are a lot of good creatures on there.but I do think the bad cringe side has overshadowed the good side there which is why I say the world would be a better place without it.
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As someone who keeps themselves at a safe distance from anything TikTok, it feels like you’re talking about a drama between demons from DOOM’s hell dimension.
I keep a distance from Twitter and TikTok because T is for Toxic AF.
TikTok art thieves take an extra step and even MAKE FUN OF the art they steal, it’s crazy. 😭
To have style; Is to have emotion.
I feel bad for the begineers on TikTok – there are some brutal people on there and hopefully the art community there can grow better instead of being so toxic.
tiktok also has a major problem with respecting artists. people exiting art to make pfps when artists blatantly say “i dont want people to edit my art-“ and then edit the artists artwork to make really bad edits.
Can we just all be accepted no mater what level of an artist are you 🙄
Seems like history repeats itself. I remember when the “tumblr art style” was an insult, and it looks like the same kind of style is being mocked again.
PERSONALLY: I think tracing official art is okay, as long as it’s private and not something you use to show publicly claiming it’s your own.
And as long as you aren’t tracing fan art I don’t see an issue.
I used to post on tiktok a lot showing my art, but I stopped because people didn’t like my art style or animations. So I just switched to doing art and animations on youtube instead. The Tik Tok art community is so toxic it blows my mind.
the thing that drives me nuts about the criticism is that those people who criticize know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about art. As an ACTUAL artist who has read books, educated myself, watched videos, taken a few art history classes, explored stylization and ACTUAL makes art I’ve found that most of those artist who are “insulted” for “incorrectly drawing” are not wrong AT ALL. and I personally LOVE seeing up and coming artist exploring things I wouldn’t have thought to have drawn in such a way. IF YOUR a new artist I hope you see this. YOUR art is valid and you have the privilege of exploring and learning in your own unique way, at a certain point you stop following your own intuition and you start to become more uniform. TREASURE your uniqueness, even tho you WANT to be somewhere else with your art, your art is beautiful now too and the journey your exploring is exciting. Keep going.
The Croaket situation was really sad. I’m personally not too big on how they placed the eyes, but it’s their style, and I support that. The fact that people were being so unnecessarily cruel and condescending to a child over not just an art style but also being associated with a community that they’re not a part of anymore is just so immature.
Its even worse to hate or trash on beginner artists right now with the use of AI art which is an ongoing problem.
If people keep harrassing beginners for their art, they will eventually see AI art has a solution to their problem because the AI can make better professional work than them and its still art to get them what they desired and get people on tiktok to shush.
So instead of encouraging to learn art theyre encouraging them to use a source that steals from many people’s art so that they can be liked, this is not it.
If people told me I MUST draw realistic features in my drawings I would be very pissed.
If I wanted to make a realistic ilustration, I would spend more time practicing, but i’m not interested at all in that style
Okay but I absolutely laughed when I saw the “correction” at 4:07. The “art fixer” just removes all perspective on the head and tries to force it into the positions of the face for a typical straight forward view. They move the hair down, making it less fluffy which isn’t too bad (that’s just a personal stylistic thing so its fine either way) then go ahead and have the bright idea to RAISE the nose/mouth area. The head is tilted down and the bottom of the nose (which is positioned halfway down the eyes to chin) is now placed 1/4 of the way down- The mouth is now where the bottom of the nose should be and they have a mega-chin. I mean I’m not suprised considering if you’re “fixing” art, you’re likely some rude kid or artist that isn’t too experienced with the mediums, but wow my imagination as an artist is going wild with that mega-chin look hahahhaa.
It really is a shame that so many beginner artists get backlash just because they aren’t at a certain skill level yet. I know I used to be similar cause I would (internally) critique other people’s art CONSTANTLY, to which I regret doing it because I missed out on a lot of artists who may have grown to be much better than they were before!
I’d say give a chance to those who are starting out. It really does help out. If I hadn’t had the people I did supporting me on my art journey, then I probably would’ve given up a long time ago
I used to trace comic book covers when I was younger. Really helped to add some dynamism to my art later on. Personally, I think tracing’s okay for a beginner I suppose.
I have to correct you, but the term proship does not necessarily mean a person who ships “problematic” pairing, it means a person who does not mind someone doing something like this, and will not attack an artist simply because ship has “problematic” features. proshippers don’t always ship something problematic, they just don’t care about other people’s ships. because these are just fictional characters and the main point is to not harass real person because of their “problematic” drawing or writing 😅 simply pointing out opinion is okay, but when people starting to assume artist’s bad person in real life becsuse of their drawing and sending really rude messages is realy not okay for most of proshippers
My biggest peeve in this community is how people will find something they don’t like about the artist and use that to justify exploiting their work. One of these users got told an artist didn’t allow reposts on a video the user made showing the artists work and their response was “oh they ship something I don’t like so I don’t care what they want”. If you fawn over their work and get views off it but use SHIPS of all things as a shield for why the artist doesn’t need respect you actually just don’t care about artists.
I remember someone on tiktok posted all the portraits of bts that they had drawn and said that this is their first time drawing realistic portraits and honestly it was really good for a beginner (especially comparing to my first realistic portraits that i drew) but the comments were horrific. Like they genuinely made me want to cry. Also there was a trend where people would judge people’s “cringe” fanart and it was downright disgusting and humiliating to watch. I remember I saw a comment that said that people judged their art so badly that they stopped drawing altogether. The worst part is if you leave comments they will answer people back with well it’s cringe what am I supposed to do and other bs along the lines.
This reminds me of the “deviantart/tumblr cringe compilations” I’ve seen on youtube a few years ago where people just made fun of art that was mostly made by children
Fun idea:
Instead of criticizing and hating on beginner artists, make a list of them. Follow them. Check back in on them in a month, a few months, a year. See if they make any improvements! It’s wonderful watching that progress ^^
I always say “every artist starts as a bad one” when people think my art is just a result of talent. As if I was born with it. When in fact, I had to work really hard to learn.
Heya, others have already mentioned this but I wanna correct you on the “proship” thing.
A “proshipper” is not a person who make certain artwork of characters or likes ships of fictional characters that people would consider “problematic”, some of them are but not every “proshipper” is, heck some “proshippers” don’t even have any ships. A “proshipper” (if I word this wrong please correct me) is a person who believes that someone’s taste in fiction does not reflect on who someone is as a person, and that people shouldn’t be wrongfully attacked or harassed based on the type of ships or fiction they like. I’ve seen some people spread the misinformation that the “pro” in “proship” means “problematic” but it doesn’t, because again not every “proshipper” likes all problematic ships or fiction. The “pro” in “proship” is just the prefix “pro”.
It’s really annoying how people will spread misinformation about the term “proship” and then try and use it as an insult. It literally makes me groan every single time I see someone try and push the rhetoric that “proshippers” are people who like problematic content or that the “pro” in “proship” means “problematic.” It’s also really annoying seeing people treat these literal fictional characters like their real people, but I’m gonna stop here before I go on a full on rant lol.
Oh, I remember this all too well…I used to be very active on tiktok. When the art style drama first appear, many defended the artist but then when someone said that the artist is a proshipper, suddenly everyone is against the artist. It’s so annoying…it’s just shipping 2 FICTIONAL characters and suddenly it’s okay to bully and mock this artist’s art..seriously, the western side of tiktok is so crazy
You can ship any fictional character without needing to justify yourself.
Saying “I just felt like doing it.” is enough.
Shipping is mostly headcanon anyways. Why do I need to justify my young Charles Xavier falling for Final Fantasy X’s Lightning to anyone?
I just felt like putting these 2 together.
1:50 fun fact, “proshipper” doesn’t mean “problematic” or “provocative”. “Proshipper” means “I’m not harassing people for drawing weird shit”. It was made into a “problematic” insult by the same twitter mob that you are critisizing
The major thing that baffles me is that proship doesn’t mean “I ship weird things” it literally means “I refuse to harass other people other their ships because they are not real, they ae fictional. I might hate your ship but I will just block you and don’t go after you for playing your “Barbie dolls” in a wrong way”. So technically, “proship art style” means art style of a person who thinks harassing people online over pixels is wrong.
There’s no such thing as a “proshipper art style”. Spitting vitriol towards others over ships will just make creators draw more of the ships people claim to hate so much. Pettiness and spite are incredibly strong motivators for plenty of fandom artists.
At the end of the day: only you can dictate what you do and don’t draw.